Fighting Order
Thu, 08/13/2009 - 02:44
Situation:
Unit Orcs (Initiative 2) is in combat with a unit of grave guard (Initiative 3). The Grave Guard Unit contains a Wight King (Initiative 4) that is engaged in a challenge with a Black Orc Warboss (Initiative 4). The Warboss is not in the Orc unit; he is in the flank of the Grave Guard. The Orcs won the previous combat, and it is the Vampires Counts players turn. Who strikes first? Or in which order do you do combat?
Fri, 08/14/2009 - 02:37
#2
Thanks, for the response. I understand in most cases it doesn't matter when the challenge is worked out but in this case the order did matter. The Wight King was giving the unit regen with the Drakenhof Banner. With him dead, the rest of the wights could not regen wounds caused by the orc unit.
Fri, 08/14/2009 - 09:34
#3
Ah, yeah, of course. Same thing applies with daemonic heralds and some of the BSBs out there I guess.
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Well, assuming no one charged (which is what it sounds like), you strike in initiative order as follows:
1.The warboss goes first since he ties the wight king for initiative, but won combat.
2.The wight king goes, with his equal initiative.
3.The grave guard go next at I3.
4.The orc unit fights.
You could of course work out 2 separate orders - 1 in the challenge and 1 in the combat since neither affects the other until you calculate combat res. This way the challenge feels more like a challenge if you'd otherwise have the unit fight in between the two characters.
The usual order of precedence is:
1.Always strike first.
2.Chargers.
3.Highest Initiative.
4.Who won combat.
5.Roll off.
In the case where both units have always strike first:
1.Highest Initiative.
2.Who won combat.
3.Roll off.
with the odd part here being that charging means nothing (except things like +2S with lances) when both sides have ASF.
Hope that clears that up for you.
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